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Oh dear

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 2:55 pm
by GodalmingYellow

Re: Oh dear

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 4:00 pm
by tomoufc
What's your point GY? Do you disagree with him?

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 4:16 pm
by Ancient Colin
At last, some honesty in campaigning!

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 4:56 pm
by Mark Sennett
This whole incident is hilarious.

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:10 pm
by amershamwrighty
John Prescott twatting that bloke who egged him 9 years ago was hilarious.

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:35 pm
by kuriaki
Just a thought - maybe she was a bigot.

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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:47 pm
by headless_pnub
&quotkuriaki&quot wrote:Just a thought - maybe she was a bigot.
If that's the case then tell her you disagree with her view point, not say she is a lovely lady then grumble to your staff about her when you think you're out of earshot.

If he thought she was a bigot, people would have much more respect for him if he'd told her to her face.

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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:57 pm
by Kernow Yellow
&quotheadless_pnub&quot wrote:
&quotkuriaki&quot wrote:Just a thought - maybe she was a bigot.
If that's the case then tell her you disagree with her view point, not say she is a lovely lady then grumble to your staff about her when you think you're out of earshot.

If he thought she was a bigot, people would have much more respect for him if he'd told her to her face.
Can't agree with that. I'm sure we all have situations where we have to be polite to people to their face but slag them off to others in private. Specially when we're 'letting off steam'. That's all Gordon Brown was doing. I think it's disgraceful that something he said basically in private and in confidence has been broadcast across the country.

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:31 pm
by SmileyMan
Remember when he became Prime Minister? He told us to judge him on his &quotvision.&quot

Sound advice.

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:19 pm
by OUFC4eva
But why is it that as soon as the immigration word is uttered
words like racist and bigot seem to follow ?

Why can't there be a serious, grown up debate about immigration
including both the positives and the negatives.

It's a taboo subject.

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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:22 pm
by YF Dan
&quotKernow Yellow&quot wrote:
&quotheadless_pnub&quot wrote:
&quotkuriaki&quot wrote:Just a thought - maybe she was a bigot.
If that's the case then tell her you disagree with her view point, not say she is a lovely lady then grumble to your staff about her when you think you're out of earshot.

If he thought she was a bigot, people would have much more respect for him if he'd told her to her face.
Can't agree with that. I'm sure we all have situations where we have to be polite to people to their face but slag them off to others in private. Specially when we're 'letting off steam'. That's all Gordon Brown was doing. I think it's disgraceful that something he said basically in private and in confidence has been broadcast across the country.
Completely agree.

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:42 pm
by amershamwrighty
But he told her to her face that she was a lovely lady who had served her community well, and then - in private - firstly grizzled about how he shouldn't have been put in front of her and secondly called her a bigoted woman.

Whatever your politics, if you are trying to persuade millions of people to elect you to run the country, you don't want to be caught doing that.

Caught is maybe the operative word, because Cameron got collared by some chap yesterday about special care education and we don't know what he said in the car afterwards.

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 9:09 pm
by YF Dan
There's a huge weight of evidence that suggests most 'hecklers' are plants, normally from opposition parties, but it's not uncommon also for 'friendly hecklers'. The appear to give the speaker a hard time but actually merely provide an opportunity to show how capable the person is at dealing with the public, allowing political points to be made in a TV news friendly format (ie not just a press conference). That's an aside.

I think the decision to broadcast the clip is what should be discussed.

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 9:28 pm
by amershamwrighty
I agree about plants, but broadcasting the clip was (IMHO) newsworthy and in the public interest, especially at election time - whether by the BBC (which has had enough issues about impartiality) or commercial stations.

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 10:24 pm
by Snake
Who cares, but just for a laugh I’ll do a Hat prediction for next week.

Labour 1, LibDems 1, Tories 1, “others