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I tend to think that 8 games is OTT and 4-5 would have been more appropriate.

Having said that I think that the Liverpool and Dalglish reaction has been terrible. Whatever they may or may not say in Uruaguay, if something is deeemd as racist in the UK then Liverpool should be apologising and educating Suarez.

T

&quotPaul Cooper&quot wrote:Having said that I think that the Liverpool and Dalglish reaction has been terrible. Whatever they may or may not say in Uruaguay, if something is deeemd as racist in the UK then Liverpool should be apologising and educating Suarez.

I think the Liverpool reaction is mainly down to the fact that the Accuser (is that a word?) in this case is a Man Utd player.

Imho, had it been any other team they might have put out a very different statement along the lines of 'he's not a racist but what he said was unacceptable and he's learned his lesson'.

&quotPaul Cooper&quot wrote:I tend to think that 8 games is OTT and 4-5 would have been more appropriate.

Having said that I think that the Liverpool and Dalglish reaction has been terrible. Whatever they may or may not say in Uruaguay, if something is deeemd as racist in the UK then Liverpool should be apologising and educating Suarez.

T

I would agree with the 4-5 games. But as has been said earlier in this debate - what should the punishment for a really nasty foul with the intent to seriously injure an opponent be. What Roy Keane did to Haaland still makes me feel ill. He got a 3 game ban, then an extra 5 after his autobiography came out when he made it clear the action was premeditated. Total of 8 games. But that was a very long time ago. Did Haaland ever play again?

It’s like Liverpool FC thinking that yet again the whole of England is against them and it’s just so unfair - but a few hundred yards away across Stanley Park another proper big club like Everton just get on with things...

I was at Anfield on Bonfire Night and to be honest imo their fans were the quietest set of Prem supporters I’ve come across so far on their home territory. Most of Them even applauded Swansea City off the pitch at the end of the game and just how patronising is that? The last time they were really top of the pile was when Oxford United played them 6 times in three seasons – LFC are living in the past.

Anyway, someone needs to say “sorry

[quote=&quotSnake&quot]It’s like Liverpool FC thinking that yet again the whole of England is against them and it’s just so unfair - but a few hundred yards away across Stanley Park another proper big club like Everton just get on with things...

I was at Anfield on Bonfire Night and to be honest imo their fans were the quietest set of Prem supporters I’ve come across so far on their home territory. Most of Them even applauded Swansea City off the pitch at the end of the game and just how patronising is that? The last time they were really top of the pile was when Oxford United played them 6 times in three seasons – LFC are living in the past.

Anyway, someone needs to say “sorry

[quote=&quotSnake&quot]Anyway, someone needs to say “sorry

Quite happy to see the back of him for a couple of months. Everything about him, from his unapologetic cheating at the World Cup in 2010, to his constant badgering of refs and throwing himself on the floor, just sums up everything that is wrong with top level football. Racist abuse would seem par for the course for this unpleasant, amoral individual.

My son is a Liverpool fan and I am glad that he has had the sense not to adopt Suarez as a role model (I may have had something to do with this though). But how many other kids will mimic his behaviour?

Finally I don't have the dilemma of whether to pick him for my fantasy league team when Liverpool are home to Bolton .

[quote=&quotSmileyMan&quot][quote=&quotSnake&quot]Anyway, someone needs to say “sorry

&quotPeterorange&quot wrote:Quite happy to see the back of him for a couple of months. Everything about him, from his unapologetic cheating at the World Cup in 2010, to his constant badgering of refs and throwing himself on the floor, just sums up everything that is wrong with top level football. Racist abuse would seem par for the course for this unpleasant, amoral individual.

My son is a Liverpool fan and I am glad that he has had the sense not to adopt Suarez as a role model (I may have had something to do with this though). But how many other kids will mimic his behaviour?

Finally I don't have the dilemma of whether to pick him for my fantasy league team when Liverpool are home to Bolton .

If it was the play-off final and Beano got himself sent off to win us the game, we'd hail him as a hero. I have no problem with the handball in the World Cup, and don't think that it suggests that someone is a nasty piece of work. Biting an opponent in Holland might be a more relevant issue...

&quotJoeyBeauchamp&quot wrote:

&quotPeterorange&quot wrote:Quite happy to see the back of him for a couple of months. Everything about him, from his unapologetic cheating at the World Cup in 2010, to his constant badgering of refs and throwing himself on the floor, just sums up everything that is wrong with top level football. Racist abuse would seem par for the course for this unpleasant, amoral individual.

My son is a Liverpool fan and I am glad that he has had the sense not to adopt Suarez as a role model (I may have had something to do with this though). But how many other kids will mimic his behaviour?

Finally I don't have the dilemma of whether to pick him for my fantasy league team when Liverpool are home to Bolton .

If it was the play-off final and Beano got himself sent off to win us the game, we'd hail him as a hero. I have no problem with the handball in the World Cup, and don't think that it suggests that someone is a nasty piece of work. Biting an opponent in Holland might be a more relevant issue...

100% agree.

&quotJoeyBeauchamp&quot wrote:

&quotPeterorange&quot wrote:Quite happy to see the back of him for a couple of months. Everything about him, from his unapologetic cheating at the World Cup in 2010, to his constant badgering of refs and throwing himself on the floor, just sums up everything that is wrong with top level football. Racist abuse would seem par for the course for this unpleasant, amoral individual.

My son is a Liverpool fan and I am glad that he has had the sense not to adopt Suarez as a role model (I may have had something to do with this though). But how many other kids will mimic his behaviour?

Finally I don't have the dilemma of whether to pick him for my fantasy league team when Liverpool are home to Bolton .

If it was the play-off final and Beano got himself sent off to win us the game, we'd hail him as a hero. I have no problem with the handball in the World Cup, and don't think that it suggests that someone is a nasty piece of work. Biting an opponent in Holland might be a more relevant issue...

I wouldn't. Cheating is cheating whoever does it. Its not the handball itself but his attitude after. OK we all do things in matches instinctively, and fair play if he had held his hands up afterwards and apologised. But he didn't, but quite the opposite boasted about it &quotSuarez said: 'Mine is the real 'Hand Of God'. I made the save of the tournament. Sometimes in training I play goalkeeper so it was worth it. There was no alternative but for me to do that and when they missed the penalty I thought 'It is a miracle and we are alive in the tournament',&quot.

So its OK to encourage our kids to cheat to win?

&quotPeterorange&quot wrote:

&quotJoeyBeauchamp&quot wrote:

&quotPeterorange&quot wrote:Quite happy to see the back of him for a couple of months. Everything about him, from his unapologetic cheating at the World Cup in 2010, to his constant badgering of refs and throwing himself on the floor, just sums up everything that is wrong with top level football. Racist abuse would seem par for the course for this unpleasant, amoral individual.

My son is a Liverpool fan and I am glad that he has had the sense not to adopt Suarez as a role model (I may have had something to do with this though). But how many other kids will mimic his behaviour?

Finally I don't have the dilemma of whether to pick him for my fantasy league team when Liverpool are home to Bolton .

If it was the play-off final and Beano got himself sent off to win us the game, we'd hail him as a hero. I have no problem with the handball in the World Cup, and don't think that it suggests that someone is a nasty piece of work. Biting an opponent in Holland might be a more relevant issue...

I wouldn't. Cheating is cheating whoever does it. Its not the handball itself but his attitude after. OK we all do things in matches instinctively, and fair play if he had held his hands up afterwards and apologised. But he didn't, but quite the opposite boasted about it &quotSuarez said: 'Mine is the real 'Hand Of God'. I made the save of the tournament. Sometimes in training I play goalkeeper so it was worth it. There was no alternative but for me to do that and when they missed the penalty I thought 'It is a miracle and we are alive in the tournament',&quot.

So its OK to encourage our kids to cheat to win?

He cheated and rightly got sent off. No one would even remember this incident if Gyan had put the penalty away.

I was furious that Uruguay got away with it at the time but on reflection he rolled the dice and got his team the result at sacrifice to himself because he could not play again. Some would say he was almost heroic!!

How many footballers would not have done the same thing in similar circumstances? Not many I'd wager.

I've always taken the view that I would prefer to lose playing fairly, than win by cheating. Lots of grey areas in that to argue about!

&quotBaboo&quot wrote:How many footballers would not have done the same thing in similar circumstances? Not many I'd wager.

I admit I may have done the same thing - as a reflex action. But then felt absolutely gutted afterwards. I would certainly not be boasting about it.