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Can't see how anyone can say Wright is better than Fozzie on the evidence so far. £100k transfer to Brighton to be dropped and then packed off on loan to a conference club does not help his cause!! As for clean sheets - wasn't our record number of clean sheets with Fozzie in the team??
Much as I'm loathe to agree with GY (I see Duffy scored again) on the evidence so far I would much rather have Fozzie in our defence than Wright. That's not to say he's a bad player or indeed won't get better but in the one game that he was under a lot of pressure (Luton) I didn't think he looked that great.
As for not noticing the best centre backs - are we not getting confused with refs here, I tended to notice our best player of all time Matt Elliott quite a lot when he played for us.
Much as I'm loathe to agree with GY (I see Duffy scored again) on the evidence so far I would much rather have Fozzie in our defence than Wright. That's not to say he's a bad player or indeed won't get better but in the one game that he was under a lot of pressure (Luton) I didn't think he looked that great.
As for not noticing the best centre backs - are we not getting confused with refs here, I tended to notice our best player of all time Matt Elliott quite a lot when he played for us.
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Yes, and with Turley in goal (are you saying he's better than Clarke?) and with Quinn alongside Foster (is he better than Creighton/Day/Wright)? Be careful with your arguments, they may not always be the right ones! As far as Wright is concerned, I think it's clear that he's a quality centre-back, even if he's sometimes looking a bit lost with the hurly-burly of Conference football. As to whether he's better than Foster, I'm not sure, but I don't think he's particularly any worse, and so far hasn't displayed Foster's tendency to dive in wrecklessly."ty cobb" wrote:Can't see how anyone can say Wright is better than Fozzie on the evidence so far. £100k transfer to Brighton to be dropped and then packed off on loan to a conference club does not help his cause!! As for clean sheets - wasn't our record number of clean sheets with Fozzie in the team??
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Just like Beano, signed for a league club before being 'packed off to a conference club'...that certainly can't help his cause...he's rubbish isn't he?"ty cobb" wrote:Can't see how anyone can say Wright is better than Fozzie on the evidence so far. £100k transfer to Brighton to be dropped and then packed off on loan to a conference club does not help his cause!! As for clean sheets - wasn't our record number of clean sheets with Fozzie in the team??
Much as I'm loathe to agree with GY (I see Duffy scored again) on the evidence so far I would much rather have Fozzie in our defence than Wright. That's not to say he's a bad player or indeed won't get better but in the one game that he was under a lot of pressure (Luton) I didn't think he looked that great.
As for not noticing the best centre backs - are we not getting confused with refs here, I tended to notice our best player of all time Matt Elliott quite a lot when he played for us.
Just like Matt Green was 'packed off to a conference club'..that certainly can't help his cause...he's rubbish isn't he?
Our two top scorers. You're an idiot.
When we signed Wright a quick browse of Brighton's forum showed that their fans were not happy with him being let go. He'd been first choice for much of the season before they changed manager. Crawley fans raved about him too.
Bringing him in was a brilliant piece of business by Wilder in my opinion and I very much doubt (though there's obviously no way of knowing for sure) that he'd have signed for a conference club if it was not one managed by CW, who he played under at Halifax.
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He wasn't dropped by Brighton, he got injured and then there was a change of manager. Do your research."ty cobb" wrote:Can't see how anyone can say Wright is better than Fozzie on the evidence so far. £100k transfer to Brighton to be dropped and then packed off on loan to a conference club does not help his cause!! As for clean sheets - wasn't our record number of clean sheets with Fozzie in the team??
Much as I'm loathe to agree with GY (I see Duffy scored again) on the evidence so far I would much rather have Fozzie in our defence than Wright. That's not to say he's a bad player or indeed won't get better but in the one game that he was under a lot of pressure (Luton) I didn't think he looked that great.
As for not noticing the best centre backs - are we not getting confused with refs here, I tended to notice our best player of all time Matt Elliott quite a lot when he played for us.
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Is he not referring that run of clean sheets at the start of this season? Wasn't that some kind of record?"boris" wrote:Yes, and with Turley in goal (are you saying he's better than Clarke?) and with Quinn alongside Foster (is he better than Creighton/Day/Wright)? Be careful with your arguments, they may not always be the right ones! As far as Wright is concerned, I think it's clear that he's a quality centre-back, even if he's sometimes looking a bit lost with the hurly-burly of Conference football. As to whether he's better than Foster, I'm not sure, but I don't think he's particularly any worse, and so far hasn't displayed Foster's tendency to dive in wrecklessly."ty cobb" wrote:Can't see how anyone can say Wright is better than Fozzie on the evidence so far. £100k transfer to Brighton to be dropped and then packed off on loan to a conference club does not help his cause!! As for clean sheets - wasn't our record number of clean sheets with Fozzie in the team??
Well hasn't it got all TiU on here - being called an idiot indeed.
As my post said I don't think he's a bad player or won't go on to become a very good player for us but on the evidence so far I don't think we can say he's better than Fozzie who, if memory serves me right got the player of the season award a couple of seasons ago - can't see Wright getting that on performances so far.
If you think signing for a league club only to be sent off on loan to a non-league club is a good thing for a player then I would question your sanity. It would suggest to me that non-league is their level and when they try and make the step up the standard is too high - doesn't make them rubbish at our level but then I didn't say that did I? I would suggest that if Matt Green isn't good enough for a Torquay side who look like they're going down then he isn't exactly the greatest player in the world although he does very well for us thank you Torquay.
Boris - didn't our clean sheet record go earlier this season, I very much doubt that any defence with Barry Quinn in would be able to set a clean sheet record.
Wright is more experienced (hence not diving in so much) but to my eye gets beaten in the air too easily for a centre back and lacks pace. Sure he's a decent player but on what I've seen so far I'd rather have Fozzie in the team.
Of course I don't see what goes on behind the scenes though so if Fozzie had some kind of problem often alluded to on here than I can understand the decision.
As my post said I don't think he's a bad player or won't go on to become a very good player for us but on the evidence so far I don't think we can say he's better than Fozzie who, if memory serves me right got the player of the season award a couple of seasons ago - can't see Wright getting that on performances so far.
If you think signing for a league club only to be sent off on loan to a non-league club is a good thing for a player then I would question your sanity. It would suggest to me that non-league is their level and when they try and make the step up the standard is too high - doesn't make them rubbish at our level but then I didn't say that did I? I would suggest that if Matt Green isn't good enough for a Torquay side who look like they're going down then he isn't exactly the greatest player in the world although he does very well for us thank you Torquay.
Boris - didn't our clean sheet record go earlier this season, I very much doubt that any defence with Barry Quinn in would be able to set a clean sheet record.
Wright is more experienced (hence not diving in so much) but to my eye gets beaten in the air too easily for a centre back and lacks pace. Sure he's a decent player but on what I've seen so far I'd rather have Fozzie in the team.
Of course I don't see what goes on behind the scenes though so if Fozzie had some kind of problem often alluded to on here than I can understand the decision.
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It is clear that Buckle doesn't rate Green (just as Poyet obviously doesn't rate Wright) but that does not mean that he "isn't good enough for a Torquay side who look like they're going down." Lots of Torquay fans were puzzled about Buckle forcing him out and I'm sure that lots would love him back now - if they were able to recall him then I'm sure they would have done. Their loss is, however, clearly our gain, as with Wright.
I don't think that I suggested that "signing for a league club only to be sent off on loan to a non-league club is a good thing for a player" did I? Is that an accurate description of what I said? Did I suggest that either player was "the greatest player in the world?"
What I did do was rebut your suggestion that somehow Wright being loaned back to us means that he clearly is somehow not good enough. As I illustrated with the Green and Beano examples, players who have been in this exact position (though Green wasn't given a chance in League 2 and Beano didn't get much of one, an issue which has caused confusion amongst both sets of fans, so I've heard) have turned out to excel for us this season.
If Foster is so much better than Wright, then why, when it was made as clear as it gets, in the transfer window, that he was available, either for a nominal fee now or for free in the summer, did no one better than Mansfield come in for him? Wright, on the other hand, went for a reported £100,000 to league 1 and, as AO points out, was first choice before being injured.
Constant misrepresentation of other posters' views, evidentially unsupported statements and clear lack of knowledge / research of topics upon which you comment - sounds like idiocy to me.
I don't think that I suggested that "signing for a league club only to be sent off on loan to a non-league club is a good thing for a player" did I? Is that an accurate description of what I said? Did I suggest that either player was "the greatest player in the world?"
What I did do was rebut your suggestion that somehow Wright being loaned back to us means that he clearly is somehow not good enough. As I illustrated with the Green and Beano examples, players who have been in this exact position (though Green wasn't given a chance in League 2 and Beano didn't get much of one, an issue which has caused confusion amongst both sets of fans, so I've heard) have turned out to excel for us this season.
If Foster is so much better than Wright, then why, when it was made as clear as it gets, in the transfer window, that he was available, either for a nominal fee now or for free in the summer, did no one better than Mansfield come in for him? Wright, on the other hand, went for a reported £100,000 to league 1 and, as AO points out, was first choice before being injured.
Constant misrepresentation of other posters' views, evidentially unsupported statements and clear lack of knowledge / research of topics upon which you comment - sounds like idiocy to me.
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He's got to show it for 1 game before he shows it for 3 in succession."Ascension Ox" wrote:Absolutely, and he'll show us that for the third game in succession tomorrow night."GodalmingYellow" wrote:I sat one row further back as I had my daughter with me and there wasn't a spare seat in our usual place."Ascension Ox" wrote: Wright is a better player than Foster. Evidenced by fact that he was signed for £100k by a League 1 club last season. Didn't see you at the game on Saturday GY, were you in a different seat?
Wright a better player than Foster?hahahahaha
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Handbags down girls..."deanwindass" wrote:It is clear that Buckle doesn't rate Green (just as Poyet obviously doesn't rate Wright) but that does not mean that he "isn't good enough for a Torquay side who look like they're going down." Lots of Torquay fans were puzzled about Buckle forcing him out and I'm sure that lots would love him back now - if they were able to recall him then I'm sure they would have done. Their loss is, however, clearly our gain, as with Wright.
I don't think that I suggested that "signing for a league club only to be sent off on loan to a non-league club is a good thing for a player" did I? Is that an accurate description of what I said? Did I suggest that either player was "the greatest player in the world?"
What I did do was rebut your suggestion that somehow Wright being loaned back to us means that he clearly is somehow not good enough. As I illustrated with the Green and Beano examples, players who have been in this exact position (though Green wasn't given a chance in League 2 and Beano didn't get much of one, an issue which has caused confusion amongst both sets of fans, so I've heard) have turned out to excel for us this season.
If Foster is so much better than Wright, then why, when it was made as clear as it gets, in the transfer window, that he was available, either for a nominal fee now or for free in the summer, did no one better than Mansfield come in for him? Wright, on the other hand, went for a reported £100,000 to league 1 and, as AO points out, was first choice before being injured.
Constant misrepresentation of other posters' views, evidentially unsupported statements and clear lack of knowledge / research of topics upon which you comment - sounds like idiocy to me.
I was responding to the general points made - one of which was that Wright is a better player than Fozzie because Brighton paid £100k for him. In my book that doesn't make him a better player, had he gone to Brighton and been a success (to me going back on loan to a non league club after half a season doesn't count as a success) then I would buy that argument.
And I'm sorry if you're let out on loan to a club two divisions lower down than you that means you're not good enough for that team. Buckle isn't an idiot (got Torquay up last year) clearly rates Green in this division - he signed him by offering him a better deal than we did, yet didn't feel he could do it in the league. Using your own argument if Beano and Green are such good players why didn't a club other than a mid table (at the time in the case of Beano) non league club come in for them? At no point did I say that any of these players were "rubbish" which you seem to be saying that I did - talk about a misrepresentation of my view! If Wright is so good why did no-one from even league 2 pick him up?
A difference of opinion does not equate to a lack of knowledge - unless you're saying your argument is right and everyone else is an idiot - I'm not the only one who thinks Wright hasn't justified getting rid of Fozzie yet - the board seems about 50/50 to me.
You seem to be basing your opinion on the fact that he was signed by Brighton and their fans were sad to see him go rather than his actual performances in a yellow shirt.
And I'm sorry if you're let out on loan to a club two divisions lower down than you that means you're not good enough for that team. Buckle isn't an idiot (got Torquay up last year) clearly rates Green in this division - he signed him by offering him a better deal than we did, yet didn't feel he could do it in the league. Using your own argument if Beano and Green are such good players why didn't a club other than a mid table (at the time in the case of Beano) non league club come in for them? At no point did I say that any of these players were "rubbish" which you seem to be saying that I did - talk about a misrepresentation of my view! If Wright is so good why did no-one from even league 2 pick him up?
A difference of opinion does not equate to a lack of knowledge - unless you're saying your argument is right and everyone else is an idiot - I'm not the only one who thinks Wright hasn't justified getting rid of Fozzie yet - the board seems about 50/50 to me.
You seem to be basing your opinion on the fact that he was signed by Brighton and their fans were sad to see him go rather than his actual performances in a yellow shirt.
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I don't understand how you can say Torquay look like they are going down. It does not look great for them but which of the others down there do you think look like they are staying up - Darlo, Grimsby, Cheltenham, Lincoln?"ty cobb" wrote:I would suggest that if Matt Green isn't good enough for a Torquay side who look like they're going down then he isn't exactly the greatest player in the world although he does very well for us thank you Torquay.
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As we know from bitter experience a team in the bottom two will usually put a run together. Could be wrong though - doesn't change the point that I'm making which is that Torquay are really struggling in the league above and Green isn't considered good enough."Baboo" wrote:I don't understand how you can say Torquay look like they are going down. It does not look great for them but which of the others down there do you think look like they are staying up - Darlo, Grimsby, Cheltenham, Lincoln?"ty cobb" wrote:I would suggest that if Matt Green isn't good enough for a Torquay side who look like they're going down then he isn't exactly the greatest player in the world although he does very well for us thank you Torquay.
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I honestly do wonder if some of our supporters actually watch the game sometimes. Maybe they spend their time gassing on about 1955 Headington United programmes in mint condition instead."GodalmingYellow" wrote:He's got to show it for 1 game before he shows it for 3 in succession."Ascension Ox" wrote:Absolutely, and he'll show us that for the third game in succession tomorrow night."GodalmingYellow" wrote: I sat one row further back as I had my daughter with me and there wasn't a spare seat in our usual place.
Wright a better player than Foster?hahahahaha
