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GodalmingYellow
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&quotdeanwindass&quot wrote:
&quotYellow River&quot wrote:I know I keep banging on about it but I really feel we should be starting with a 4-4-2 formation especially away from home.

The last two away matches I went to (Kiddie &amp Crawley) we allowed far too many crosses in from wide positions resulting in chances and goals for the oppo. 4-4-2 with two wide midfield/wingers give protection in front of the two fullbacks, they also allow the fullbacks to overlap.

Most of this season Constable has been isolated in the centre forward position, Midson/Green/Cook or whoever are not wide enough to cover the fullbacks but not close enough to Beano to give support.

I agree with the earlier points regarding Sodje, I thought his introduction playing alongside Constable made a big difference on Tuesday night.

But hey what do I know Lord Wilder's 4-3-3 has reaped the results so far.
Totally agree. 433 is fine at home but away the midfield tends to be bypassed. Plus because we have so little width we resort to hoofing it.

At the moment away, I'd play

Clarke
Batt Beast Foz Perry
Chapman Clist Bulman Cook
Sodje Beano

Bench: Sandy, Deering, Day, Murray, F.Green

Chapman's relative lack of pace would hopefully be balanced out by Batt getting forward. The main downside is that there's no room for Murray but he tends to have his better games at home when he sees more of the ball and the pitch is bigger and in better condition.
I would play the same 4-4-2 formation home and away. No need to keep switching it about.

As one or two others have said, Cook's position is now under threat, and I would be looking to start with LSD instead. Also horses for courses, so I would play Sandwich at left back, as in a 4-4-2 his lack of pace and positional sense is less of an issue.

I also think C-List needs a break as his effectiveness has diminshed in recent weeks.

Foster is suspended which means Perry at centre back.

Never leave Murray out unless he is injured or badly out of form. But ensure he is played behind the front 2 rather than in front of the back 4.

So for Saturday my team would be:

Clarkey
Sandwich, Beast, Perry, Batman
LSD, Bulman, Muzza, Chapman
Beano, SodYa

Subs: Turley, Day, C-List, Cook, Franny
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&quotGodalmingYellow&quot wrote:
&quotdeanwindass&quot wrote:
&quotYellow River&quot wrote:I know I keep banging on about it but I really feel we should be starting with a 4-4-2 formation especially away from home.

The last two away matches I went to (Kiddie &amp Crawley) we allowed far too many crosses in from wide positions resulting in chances and goals for the oppo. 4-4-2 with two wide midfield/wingers give protection in front of the two fullbacks, they also allow the fullbacks to overlap.

Most of this season Constable has been isolated in the centre forward position, Midson/Green/Cook or whoever are not wide enough to cover the fullbacks but not close enough to Beano to give support.

I agree with the earlier points regarding Sodje, I thought his introduction playing alongside Constable made a big difference on Tuesday night.

But hey what do I know Lord Wilder's 4-3-3 has reaped the results so far.
Totally agree. 433 is fine at home but away the midfield tends to be bypassed. Plus because we have so little width we resort to hoofing it.

At the moment away, I'd play

Clarke
Batt Beast Foz Perry
Chapman Clist Bulman Cook
Sodje Beano

Bench: Sandy, Deering, Day, Murray, F.Green

Chapman's relative lack of pace would hopefully be balanced out by Batt getting forward. The main downside is that there's no room for Murray but he tends to have his better games at home when he sees more of the ball and the pitch is bigger and in better condition.
I would play the same 4-4-2 formation home and away. No need to keep switching it about.

As one or two others have said, Cook's position is now under threat, and I would be looking to start with LSD instead. Also horses for courses, so I would play Sandwich at left back, as in a 4-4-2 his lack of pace and positional sense is less of an issue.

I also think C-List needs a break as his effectiveness has diminshed in recent weeks.

Foster is suspended which means Perry at centre back.

Never leave Murray out unless he is injured or badly out of form. But ensure he is played behind the front 2 rather than in front of the back 4.

So for Saturday my team would be:

Clarkey
Sandwich, Beast, Perry, Batman
LSD, Bulman, Muzza, Chapman
Beano, SodYa

Subs: Turley, Day, C-List, Cook, Franny

Interestingly you both left out Midson altogther. Time to give Murray a rest, neither Murray or Cook look fit to me. I'd take the gamble of leaving Turley out the squad altogether.

My team for Saturday would be

Clarke
Batt, Creighton, Perry, Sandwith
Potter, Bulman, Chapman, Clist,
Constable, Midson.

Subs Day, Green, Deering, Sodje, Cook.

Whatever team is picked at least one decent player will not even make the bench.
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Clarke
Batt, Creighton, Perry, Sandwith
Potter, Bulman, Clist, Chapman,
Constable, Sodjie.

Subs - Turley (always have a goalie on the bench if you've got one I say)
Deering, Midson, Green, Murray.

I think Clist is still doing a great job.
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&quotBaboo&quot wrote:Clarke
Batt, Creighton, Perry, Sandwith
Potter, Bulman, Clist, Chapman,
Constable, Sodjie.

Subs - Turley (always have a goalie on the bench if you've got one I say)
Deering, Midson, Green, Murray.

I think Clist is still doing a great job.
Wot no defenders on the bench?
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&quotGodalmingYellow&quot wrote:
&quotdeanwindass&quot wrote:
&quotYellow River&quot wrote:I know I keep banging on about it but I really feel we should be starting with a 4-4-2 formation especially away from home.

The last two away matches I went to (Kiddie &amp Crawley) we allowed far too many crosses in from wide positions resulting in chances and goals for the oppo. 4-4-2 with two wide midfield/wingers give protection in front of the two fullbacks, they also allow the fullbacks to overlap.

Most of this season Constable has been isolated in the centre forward position, Midson/Green/Cook or whoever are not wide enough to cover the fullbacks but not close enough to Beano to give support.

I agree with the earlier points regarding Sodje, I thought his introduction playing alongside Constable made a big difference on Tuesday night.

But hey what do I know Lord Wilder's 4-3-3 has reaped the results so far.
Totally agree. 433 is fine at home but away the midfield tends to be bypassed. Plus because we have so little width we resort to hoofing it.

At the moment away, I'd play

Clarke
Batt Beast Foz Perry
Chapman Clist Bulman Cook
Sodje Beano

Bench: Sandy, Deering, Day, Murray, F.Green

Chapman's relative lack of pace would hopefully be balanced out by Batt getting forward. The main downside is that there's no room for Murray but he tends to have his better games at home when he sees more of the ball and the pitch is bigger and in better condition.
I would play the same 4-4-2 formation home and away. No need to keep switching it about.

As one or two others have said, Cook's position is now under threat, and I would be looking to start with LSD instead. Also horses for courses, so I would play Sandwich at left back, as in a 4-4-2 his lack of pace and positional sense is less of an issue.

I also think C-List needs a break as his effectiveness has diminshed in recent weeks.

Foster is suspended which means Perry at centre back.

Never leave Murray out unless he is injured or badly out of form. But ensure he is played behind the front 2 rather than in front of the back 4.

So for Saturday my team would be:

Clarkey
Sandwich, Beast, Perry, Batman
LSD, Bulman, Muzza, Chapman
Beano, SodYa

Subs: Turley, Day, C-List, Cook, Franny
No he's not, 1 game ban for professional fouls.

While I can understand that Murray's technically our best player and I'd always play him at home and against the weaker sides on the nicer pitches away (which is when I'd stick to the 433 anyway), I can't see how you can break up the Clist-Bulman partnership and I hate to seem him wide right. Something's got to give when you're playing 442 and I think that it has to be Murray. Bullman's battling perfectly balances Clist's unassuming floating around-and-getting-and-giving-i role. They're like ying and yang.
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&quotdeanwindass&quot wrote: No he's not, 1 game ban for professional fouls.

While I can understand that Murray's technically our best player and I'd always play him at home and against the weaker sides on the nicer pitches away (which is when I'd stick to the 433 anyway), I can't see how you can break up the Clist-Bulman partnership and I hate to seem him wide right. Something's got to give when you're playing 442 and I think that it has to be Murray. Bullman's battling perfectly balances Clist's unassuming floating around-and-getting-and-giving-i role. They're like ying and yang.
I thought it was 3 game ban for straight red. Obviously not. In which case, Foster replaces Perry in my starting XI and Perry replaces Day on the bench.

For me, Clist is not contributing enough to keep a place. Yes he runs around a lot, but he isn't being effective and he gives the ball away to much. He doesn't provide any creativity.

Murray is a very important cog in the Oxford United gearbox. His link up play is excellent. Sure he doesn't defend so much, but that's what Bully is for.
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&quotdeanwindass&quot wrote:Bullman's battling perfectly balances Clist's unassuming floating around-and-getting-and-giving-i role. They're like ying and yang.
i think you've got that absolutely right there. for me, one of the most important elements in this team is their partnership.

i've said for some time there are five names that i reckon are on the teamsheet straight away:

clarke, creighton, constable - and clist and bulman.

if that's right and you play a three in midfield, that means life is always going to be hard for the murrays and deerings of this world.
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&quotMatt D&quot wrote:
i've said for some time there are five names that i reckon are on the teamsheet straight away:

clarke, creighton, constable - and clist and bulman.

if that's right and you play a three in midfield, that means life is always going to be hard for the murrays and deerings of this world.
That's the sort of 'problem' we dreamt of 12 months ago. Just shows how far we have come under King Wilder.
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&quotGodalmingYellow&quot wrote:
&quotdeanwindass&quot wrote: No he's not, 1 game ban for professional fouls.

While I can understand that Murray's technically our best player and I'd always play him at home and against the weaker sides on the nicer pitches away (which is when I'd stick to the 433 anyway), I can't see how you can break up the Clist-Bulman partnership and I hate to seem him wide right. Something's got to give when you're playing 442 and I think that it has to be Murray. Bullman's battling perfectly balances Clist's unassuming floating around-and-getting-and-giving-i role. They're like ying and yang.
I thought it was 3 game ban for straight red. Obviously not. In which case, Foster replaces Perry in my starting XI and Perry replaces Day on the bench.

For me, Clist is not contributing enough to keep a place. Yes he runs around a lot, but he isn't being effective and he gives the ball away to much. He doesn't provide any creativity.

Murray is a very important cog in the Oxford United gearbox. His link up play is excellent. Sure he doesn't defend so much, but that's what Bully is for.

Clist is more important to the team than Murray. Glues the passing movements together.

Perry is loads better than Foster.

Apart from that you're 100% right
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